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To mark the end of the debate, we’ll be hosting The Big Fat Chat Live on 1 March 2017 at Aquarius Ballroom in Hednesford, Cannock.

To mark the end of the debate, we’ll be hosting The Big Fat Chat Live on 1 March at Aquarius Ballroom in Hednesford, Cannock.

Anyone who would like to take part in the debate can join a panel of experts to explore what it will take to tackle obesity in Staffordshire and start to agree who will take responsibility for what.

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38 Comments

  1. Beverly Henderson

    February 4, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    I would like to know what I can do for exercise when I am disabled with spinal problems? I have been known to “lock up” and be unable to move at all.

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 7, 2017 at 10:08 am

      Thanks for your comment Beverly. We must apologise for not having an answer for you right now. We will have a look and see if we can come up with some answers for you.

  2. Ann nonymus

    February 7, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    Hi, is this a joke? I work for the Together 4 Health service which has just been decommissioned by Staffs cc??? Providing exercise, weight management advice, alcohol reduction & smoking cessation. 40 people were made redundant last week so the whole of Staffordshire now has no lifestyle service!!!

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 8, 2017 at 11:02 am

      Hi. Thanks for posting. We’ve been gathering some details on this change and yes, the Together 4 Health service will come to an end in April 2017.

      As you know, both the NHS and local government are dealing with very challenging times with regards to public finances and in particular, being able to pay for increasing adult social care costs.

      With less money available, the county council is looking for people to take greater responsibility for their own health and wellbeing so that they can focus resources on those who need help the most.

      People who are already being supported by the Healthy Lifestyles Service will be able to finish their 12-week programme and in the future the county council will still commission support for weight management in children and support for pregnant women to stop smoking.

      The Big Fat Chat is being run by Staffordshire’s Health and Wellbeing Board to open up the debate on obesity and whose responsibility it is to tackle it.

      There are many sources of recognised support out there in the community and lots of opportunities for exercise that don’t have a cost attached (walking, running or cycling).

      There’s also a wealth of information and advice online and free apps that can support people to maintain a healthy weight.

      What do you think? How much should taxpayers pay in supporting others to maintain a healthy weight and how much should be down to individual choices and decisions?

      • Ann nonymus

        February 8, 2017 at 11:34 am

        You’re right, yes, absolutely everyone should take responsibility for their own health. But & it’s a massive but, they simply don’t! A lot of people are so uneducated with regards to food & there are so many mixed messages they don’t know what to believe & simply don’t know what they are doing wrong.

  3. #thisisabloodyjoke

    February 7, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    An absolute disgrace that Staffs County Council have pulled the plug on the NHS Together4Health service! Public Health should not reside with SCC as it will be the NHS who pick up the bill in the future through patients hospitalised due to withdrawal of prevention services! You need to look past the end of your noses at the far bigger picture! Hang your heads in shame SCC!!

    • #GetaGrip

      February 14, 2017 at 3:00 pm

      let’s re-instate this service that states the bleedin’ obvious and hope no kids die as a result of cuts to child safeguarding services as a consequence… #Getagrip

  4. Tommy

    February 8, 2017 at 10:29 am

    A good start for the children and parents alike, would be to walk to and from school instead of taking their cars where and when possible. This obviously comes down to making the time to do this.

  5. Disengaged person

    February 13, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    Back in 2013 prevention and early intervention was the key focus of the former Director of Public Health at SCC and district and borough councils in Staffordshire were given both funding and support from Public Health to take this agenda forward. However, fast forward 3 years and ‘prevention and early intervention’ appear to have died a death. Funding has been cut for the districts and boroughs (and yes I understand why) but what should still be there for the district and borough councils is support from SCC and encouragement to continue the good work that was started back in 2013. The districts commissioned some excellent programmes that supported physical activity and healthy eating amongst many other things and SCC has not once enquired to find out about the success of this work. I feel we have been abandoned. So in a nutshell, the good work the districts and boroughs have done to try and take this agenda forward has been completely overlooked and not recognised in the slightest! You are now looking for support to promote far and wide this big fat chat but I’m afraid I’m now disengaged.
    Also this is the first time since the health reforms of 2013 that the Health and Wellbeing Board are doing something! Where have you been the last 4 years??!!

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 14, 2017 at 9:22 am

      Hi, I’m sorry to hear that you feel this way. We would love to know more about the initiatives you have been running and what you feel has worked in your district/borough so that others can learn from your work and we can share this with the Board as part of the debate.

  6. Jayne

    February 21, 2017 at 2:22 pm

    I think the name of the debate is wrong!! It is fat shaming at its worst,there are other names you could of chosen than to make people feel worse than they already do. You would think we would have come further away from name calling & body shaming,it is hurtful to those with weight issues and in a sense is bullying as it is upsetting people. Would you have a debate about racism and call it the p*** debate?? Or the debate for white people?? NO!!! Or a debate about benefits would you call the doler debate?? NO!! So why “big fat chat”??

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 21, 2017 at 3:01 pm

      Hi Jayne, thank you for posting, I’m sorry to hear this. We did take a bit of a risk with the name of the debate because we wanted to get people’s attention and opinions on how we tackle obesity in Staffordshire. It is such a big issue for us and despite the efforts of everyone involved, it doesn’t seem to be a situation that is improving. There are other organisations out there who support weight-loss and openly use the word fat because practically, that’s what a person’s body produces if they consume more calories than they burn. Having said that, we absolutely didn’t want to upset anyone personally and we’re really sorry if we have.

      • Jayne

        February 21, 2017 at 3:16 pm

        There are ways to get attention without shaming i believe. Yes peoples bodies produce fat but it doesnt mean it has to be called this,it isnt acceptable to call people fat,it is rude and hurtful and i think the debate could of been named something less hurtful and still get it listened too. I myself are of a bigger size and find it degrading,i am also doing something about it and i am part of slimming world,i have tried all ways,weight watchers,gym,juice plus and i have found slimming world my better option and alot of my slimming world group are very upset with the name you have chosen. Rather than ridicule people,educate them,show them the options,not put people down. Who on the panel have suffered weight issues and decided it is ok to call the debate this?? Who on the panel have suffered and not known which way to turn for help?? Who on the panel have tried all options and failed or thrived?? It is easy to say you are tackling the issue but unless been through then cannot relatebto peoples struggles. My child got weighed at school a few weeks back & although she is at ideal weight,her friend atvthe age of 5 gotbtold she was overweight,now at 5 they are still growing and going to yoyo but this is where we start with weight issues,this is where anorexia starts and it shouldnt be happening at such a young age!!

        • Big Fat Chat Team

          February 21, 2017 at 3:36 pm

          Thanks Jayne – I think it’s great that you are taking positive steps with Slimming World. I have battled my own demons when it comes to weight, particularly when I was younger, so I do know what it’s like. Personally, I didn’t find the debate name offensive, but perhaps that’s because I know there was absolutely no intention to hurt anyone’s feelings. Do you go to the Slimming World group at the Ballroom? I’m interested to know what it is that really works for you with Slimming World that you think others can learn from? I’m also interested in your thoughts about the Child Measurement Programme. You think it is a bad thing in terms of managing a healthy weight in children rather than a good thing? It’s a national programme – more details are here http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/childhealth1-5/Pages/ChildMeasurement.aspx

  7. Debbie

    February 21, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I think you are scaring the very people you are trying to reach away with the name. I have witnessed indirect discrimination like this first hand when I worked at a children centre and guess what they didn’t reach their target audience either. You need to engage people through the community with compassion and support not a label like that!! Please reconsider it’s your biggest mountain at the moment. Great concept, fabulous idea for consultation, the right people involved RUBBISH NAME!!!

  8. Fletch

    February 21, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    It’s such a shame that so much good intentions will be overshadowed by the name.
    Who on earth thought it was a good idea to call it the big fat chat? Was there no one advising you that people could find it offensive.
    I spend my life defending people who have been bully ed, ridiculed, name called, ‘fat’
    I think it’s sad that the very people who are in a position of power to help and support, still havnt got it!
    Guys this is NOT ok
    You NEED to change the name if you want the debate to be taken in the context you set it up for.

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 22, 2017 at 10:20 am

      Hello Gill, Thank you for posting. As you know, the aim of the campaign was to get people talking on one of the county’s major public health issues. In hindsight, we should have tested the campaign title with more people and we will make sure we build in time to do this in any future debates. We really do value your thoughts and opinions on the emotions linked to weight, whether you believe this is a barrier to making healthy choices and what you think could be done to help. The campaign is coming to an end now but we will make sure public perceptions and the language we use are debated at the event on 1 March. I will be coming your Slimming World group tomorrow evening to listen to your views and talk about the campaign in a little more detail.

  9. Robert Birch

    February 21, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    BIG FAT CHAT? Are you serious? Who decided on this as the derogatory and offensive name? Was it done deliberately to make people feel bad about themselves or just to legitimise labelling people who may have a weight issue? This may well have a decent enough sentiment behind it but with a name like this it’s instantly turned into something descriminatory, offensive, derisory and doesn’t deserve to be promoted. The responses to others that have raised the name as a concern say it all as nowehere do any of them apologise for labelling people as “big and fat”, you might as well stand on a street corner with a big hand on a stick and point at people passing by as you shout “fatty” at them.

    I am absolutely astounded at the crass insensitivity of it. Shameful!

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 22, 2017 at 10:32 am

      Hello Robert, thank you for posting. I’m sorry that the campaign name has upset you. You’ll see in the response to Gill that the aim of the campaign was to get people talking on one of the county’s major public health issues. In hindsight, we should have tested the campaign title with more people and we will make sure we build in time to do this in any future debates. We really do value your thoughts and opinions on the emotions linked to weight, whether you believe this is a barrier to making healthy choices and what you think could be done to help. The campaign is coming to an end now but we will make sure public perceptions and the language we use are debated at the event on 1 March.

      • Robert Birch

        February 23, 2017 at 7:44 pm

        It’s also telling that you refer to Staffordshires big fat problem. Are people in Staffordshire who are overweight really a big fat problem or is this also not intended to cause offence. I find the reply unconvincing?

  10. Deb Barnes

    February 21, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    I think the name you’ve chosen for this initiative is very ill-considered. I understand someone thought it was a nice, snappy title that gets the point across, but I have to assume that no-one on the panel has weight issues. Either that or anyone on the panel with weight issues was too embarrassed to speak up and say what an emotive word ‘fat’ is. This is a debate, so presumably you want a variety of opinions? Calling it Big Fat Chat is very likely to deter anyone with weight issues because you can almost guarantee that someone will throw out a big fat comment about them. It’s practically an invitation for ridicule against anyone who could be seen as BIG and FAT. I would have been very interested in this debate, I have been on my weightloss journey for several years and as a result have reduced my insulin use to a quarter of what it used to be, and I’ve brought my blood sugar and blood pressure levels to just where they should be. But I haven’t lost enough weight yet and it is still a very sensitive issue. So I won’t feel able to attend this debate for fear of ridicule. I very much hope it wasn’t your intention to make people like me feel like that, but it IS what you’ve done.

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 22, 2017 at 10:36 am

      Hello Deb, thanks for posting. There was absolutely no intention with the campaign name to upset anyone personally and I am sorry if we have. Your achievements in losing weight sound fantastic. The aim of the campaign was to get people talking on one of the county’s major public health issues. In hindsight, we should have tested the campaign title with more people and we will make sure we build in time to do this in any future debates. We really do value your thoughts and opinions on the emotions linked to weight, whether you believe this is a barrier to making healthy choices and what you think could be done to help. The campaign is coming to an end now but we will make sure public perceptions and the language we use are debated at the event on 1 March.

  11. Sarah

    February 21, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    I’d ove to know who came up with the name. And wasn’t it questioned by anyone? I can’t believe a group of bodies, looking out for the public, allowed that to happen.

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 22, 2017 at 10:39 am

      Hello Sarah, thanks for posting. The name of the campaign was never designed to hurt anyone personally, just to get people talking about one of our county’s biggest public health issues. In hindsight, we should have tested the campaign title with more people and we will make sure we build in time to do this in any future debates. We really do value your thoughts and opinions on the emotions linked to weight, whether you believe this is a barrier to making healthy choices and what you think could be done to help. The campaign is coming to an end now but we will make sure public perceptions and the language we use are debated at the event on 1 March.

  12. jenny

    February 21, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    Im glad things like this are being addressed but as someone that this time last year was obeses and felt there was not enough help out there which need to be addressed for others . I would hate people calling me fat and would find it humilatin hurtfull and very upsetting as I have said im pleased its being addressed but as others have said why call it the big fat chat has you said it is about fat well i disagree its about being over weight and obesity . who every thought up the name have not considered peoples feeling and is classed as discrimination

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 22, 2017 at 10:42 am

      Hello Jenny, thanks for posting. The name of the campaign was never designed to hurt anyone personally and I’m sorry if it has. The aim of the campaign was just to get people talking about one of our county’s biggest public health issues. In hindsight, we should have tested the campaign title with more people and we will make sure we build in time to do this in any future debates. We really do value your thoughts and opinions on the emotions linked to weight, whether you believe this is a barrier to making healthy choices and what you think could be done to help. We would also like to hear your views on the support people need, as you’ve alluded to there not being enough help out there. The campaign is coming to an end now but we will make sure public perceptions and the language we use are debated at the event on 1 March.

  13. Wendi

    February 21, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    Wow you almost deserve a round of applause for finding a name so suitable that gives every bully, cruel and uneducated people the right to call someone fat! How will you raise awareness when you will be scaring a lot of people away! From my experience of being in 1 of your statistics as being ‘moribidly obese’ people who want to lose weight find the idea of discussing being fat totally off putting and makes the very unlikely to want to go to a group or doctors or a ‘chat’ to even begin to consider any options they face….. I have taught my children that calling people fat is cruel and wrong and no you seem to have the right to do so? Who do you think you will reach? certainly not those who want the help, support and education that people often want. SlimmingWorld has helped me lose 14 stone almost and has taught me what I need to do to live a healthy lifestyle for both me and the whole family. I think you seriously need to consider your approach to this whole situation!

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 22, 2017 at 10:45 am

      Hello Wendi, thank you for your post. That is an amazing achievement. The name of the campaign was never designed to hurt anyone personally and I’m sorry if it has. The aim of the campaign was just to get people talking about one of our county’s biggest public health issues. In hindsight, we should have tested the campaign title with more people and we will make sure we build in time to do this in any future debates. We really do value your thoughts and opinions on the emotions linked to weight, whether you believe this is a barrier to making healthy choices and what you think could be done to help. I’ll be coming to the Slimming World session tomorrow evening to speak to everyone personally – I’m not sure if you’ll be there though. The campaign is coming to an end now but we will make sure public perceptions and the language we use are debated at the event on 1 March.

  14. AnnClay

    February 21, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    Great name NOT who came up with that???
    Great way to encourage people who are already stigmatised for being overweight to join your debate by pointing out that they are “fat”
    Would you hold a debate called the skinny chat or the gay chat??
    I think NOT !!!!
    Maybe you should have a BIG FAT rethink about the name
    I will be attending the debate and look forward to how people are going to be helped now funding has been withdrawn for together 4 health
    We are responsible for our own health and well being but not everyone is able to manage this without some help

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 22, 2017 at 10:48 am

      Hello Ann, thanks for posting. The name of the campaign was never designed to hurt anyone personally and I’m sorry if it has. The aim of the campaign was just to get people talking about one of our county’s biggest public health issues. In hindsight, we should have tested the campaign title with more people and we will make sure we build in time to do this in any future debates. The campaign is coming to an end now but we will make sure public perceptions and the language we use are debated at the event on 1 March, as well as the support available for people to achieve their goals.

  15. Fletch

    February 22, 2017 at 11:00 am

    After doing some reasurching I understand there were objections raised about the name!
    However you seen it fit to ignore there concerns!!
    It feels like just a way of getting people talking, no matter what?
    Your whole point has been lost in the name.
    If you needed more coverage I have a data base of 1,000’s
    2000 people attended my groups in January and I have over 550 every week.
    The comment about big fat gypsy wedding and a play on that just seems a bit of a joke.
    I take the issues of weight and supporting my members very seriously, it’s not a joke.
    Work with the people that care, know and have an understanding.
    Things like this need more than a flip chart and a brain storming session! To come up with a witty name.
    It’s people’s emotions, if you have neaver walked in there shoes how can you understand there issues?
    You need more diversity in the team.

  16. Sue Woodwatd

    February 22, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    As the Leader of the Opposition at Staffordshire County Council and as someone who has struggled all my life with my weight, I raised this at last week’s meeting and the Cabinet Member said that he would review the name of the initiative. Why didn’t that happen? It may be that a debate has been provoked – but is this really the way to engage people? The badging of the scheme was clearly not tested with those who need support and, as Fletch says, there was no attempt to “walk in the shoes” of those who have problems with their weight. To say that I’m disappointed doesn’t really hit the mark.

    • Big Fat Chat Team

      February 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm

      Hello Sue, There was certainly no intention to offend anyone personally with the name of the debate. The aim of the campaign was to get people talking on one of the county’s major public health issues. In hindsight, we should have tested the campaign title with more people and we will make sure we build in time to do this in any future debates. The campaign is coming to an end now but we will make sure public perceptions and the language we use are debated at the event on 1 March

  17. Realist

    February 22, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    Congratulations to the clowns that came up with this branding, it’s reminiscent of something Siobhan Sharpe, BBC Brand Consultant, Head of Perfect Curve played by Jessica Hynes could have come up with in the comedy W1A.

    Playing devils advocate, there may be an obesity epidemic on the way. But what is the alternative: living to an age when your body and brain have given up on you, spending the last two years of your life in nappies, drinking your food through a straw. All this in an underfunded care home by overworked and underpaid staff. Think I’ll go for the burger from the front page of the site, which looks delicious, and live a few years less.

  18. Tafmai

    February 23, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    Honestly,it’s just a name.
    I am obese and I am not offended by this name at all.
    I have been to various weightloss groups, struggled with my weight all my life and at no point have been offended by this at all.
    I am very fat – it’s a fact. I can do more about it if I motivated myself more and tried harder. The truth is, I can’t be bothered most of the time. I can blame many things, my underactive thyroid, lack of time blah blah blah.
    The truth is I eat too much and don’t exercise enough. The result is I am fat and I have to accept that. I’m not happy with it but only I can make a difference to it and until then, if people see me as fat and call me as fat then so be it. It’s a word.
    I think people are losing the track of what this is supposed to be doing.
    This got my attention purely because of the name it was given. I think it is genius. We do need to have a big fat chat and challenge people directly.
    As a fat person, it bothers me more ordering a’Skinny’ latte!

  19. Julia

    February 24, 2017 at 8:37 am

    Hi I have found Overeaters Anonymous very helpful in my lifelong struggle with food addiction and resulting weight issues. There are several OA groups in Staffordshire who meet on a weekly basis. If anyone is interested this is the website which gives more detail of the programme and a link to find a meeting in your area. http://www.oagb.com

  20. Joe

    February 24, 2017 at 9:32 am

    I wanted to thank the person who came along last night to Slimming World.
    you were very brave to come, and I hope you saw why this name is so harrowing to us. it is just a word. and words shouldn’t hurt people. but over the course of years and years of abuse, of us having to hide away in shame for fear of being made to feel disgusting. its become pretty upsetting for us. and remember, sometimes it’s how we feel about ourselves. I know im very obese. and I’m working hard to fix that. please just consider how you would feel for your next campaign

    Thanks

  21. Jack Stevens

    February 28, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    So there was an NHS weight management service in Staffordshire but the county council have cut it?? Is that right?? Seems to be what my quick internet search and conversation with my MP implies. This idea of a conversation or consultation is insane, the whole branding is clearly going to put people off attending, the very people who you need to hear the views of??

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